Hard to say without being able to hear the noise in person. Hi NickLove the site. The jerking was rhythmic and about 2-3 cycles per second. Now I tried with unpluged O2 sensor,car starts normally and RPM was ca.720 constantly. 2007 328I SEDAN 100,000 miles, have problem with engine surging in park, in drive car will stall, buck and has a squealing noise at times. The VANOS actuator on each camshaft is supplied with engine oil under pressure; a solenoid controlled by the engine control module (ECM) retards or advances camshaft timing by modifying the supply of pressurized oil to the VANOS actuator. You'll have to check camshaft timing desired verse actual values. Will not restart cranks, stumbles, won't start. We appreciate it. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Check camshaft actual verse desired using a BMW scan tool. N52 does have a crank sensor. I'm not sure on the VANOS angles. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Good day, My 2006 e90 tends to stall and shake whilst idling in D mode at traffic lights. My engine is the N52. I have a tool to do the adaptation I'm just waiting on a new obd2 port because mine was broken. If it is a mechanical timing issue, how do I go about fixing it? Are there any fault codes? Any clues? 2007 328i E90 automatic, 73k miles. Anyway just wondering If a Vanos solenoid may be what I need. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi, I have a 2007 3series coupe e92, my brake pedal has gone hard and I have hardly any brakes with the car running and stopped. Hi Nick, 1 more update: - no error codes checked being scanned by a bluetooth OBD2 scanner w/ iPhone. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Had a slight hesitancy when moving off from standstill. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Even if I did all these adjustments I still notice that the RPM go down slowly when I start the car that is already warm and the engine light has gone on again once. Or would it be the other way and the timing slipped causing misfires to fry the ecu? Have been told that the inlet one has been replaced but the problem code still appears. what do you suggest i do? This will be your best bet when diagnosing. I have a 2006 330XI E90?. Just a quick question see if you guys may know any better. I've already removed the others without a problem I was thinking of changing the oil using a BMW filter, changing the spark plugs and cleaning the O2 sensor that's up front. Mind you it only dies if Ive been driving through city for awhile never dies on hwy. Can you swap tension spring from another location to eliminate that as a potential problem? Sure enough a week later the check engine ligh comes on. COuld be a defective parts, things happen. - Nick at Pelican Parts. It may run fine one time, then the next time throw the cam senor code or the vanos code or both and have some weird dip in rpm when the engine is slowin to idle, or maybe when it is just sitting there idling. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi Nick, I'm after a little advise on my 325i e90, its feeling underpowered and economy, eml comes and goes, also flat spots at low revs and low gear, I've been aimed toward vanos solenoid by others, what's your thoughts please, I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. Any idea what the issue could be? Thoughts? I do you think the solinoid is now knackerd? The Huntington Library is one of the world's great independent research libraries, with more than 11 million items spanning the 11th to the 21st century. It also has a 300 rpm drop in RPM's at idle, under load at stop lights, ectwhich causes a slight shudder, and "surge" while on the brakes. Thank you for the help and expertise you've provided to the BMW community! Where can I look for this clog, because i'm pretty sure that's what the issue is Thanks Nick, In need of direction. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. - Nick at Pelican Parts. It throws Vanos, valvetronic, and throttle body codes. I would say enjoy the car. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. The BMW dealer said after testing that I need to replace the VANOS exhaust solenoid and the NOX sensor. Check fuel pressure, volume and quality. The car display message "Engine malfunction reduce power" within 3 or 4 miles of starting now. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. Give our parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. Code seems to occur less frequently after oil change. SO probably not solenoids. These extraordinary and diverse materials are centered on 14 intersecting collection strengths. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi, may I ask you a question? Also the rpm is not regular. I am hoping its a vanos problem easy and cheap fix what do you think? If it does, replace the solenoids. The BMW E90 engine utilizes two VANOS (variable camshaft timing) solenoids. So, he cancelled the light and hasnt started since! I did plugs and coils a few weeks ago on my '06 325xi to troubleshoot a seeking cold idle issue and now I discovered this writeup for VANOS solenoids which was probably my issue to begin with! and if that doesn't work, check out the cam bearing ledge? Try fixing the error or submitting again. Any ideas? Or would a solenoid failure prevent the exhaust cam from retarding so it would be stuck in the normal position? Give our parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. Just replaced spark plugs and coil packs with OEM after misfire codes and ran great. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have a 2007 bmw x3 check engine light came on auto zone machine reads p0012 the truck shakes at light and makes squealing noise. If the VANOS units were replaced, the issue can be a worn timing chain. If the engine is hunting that is where I would start. Plugged in OBD and got P1553. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Thanks nick for ur quick response if I can not get it out using tools how hard would it be for me to take the cover off to access it is there a DIY for this thank u, That is part of the cylinder head, not a cover. Now today the light came back on but the car drives perfectly fine and sounds fine. It could be pulling down the entire system. I am thinking it's the oil pump that has failed. If this was fine for about 3 months, then I'd think I could replaced both solenoids and hope for the best? Add an oil change to the procedure and you should be good. This will be your best bet when diagnosing. Have a great day ahead. O-rings may be wrong size or something is in the bore preventing them from going it. Follow up to comment by Shane J Cooper titled "I have a 2007 BMW 328i with 96k miles" Thank you for your response, Nick. The system uses a gear on the Vanos actuator and a gear on the camshaft. https://us.autologic.com/news/bmw-vanos-system-fault-testing-and-diagnosing Gear D mode, foot pressure on break pedal. Thanks for getting back to me - much appreciated. Or does this have to be something with the VANOS? Thank you for your reply Nick. VANOS solenoid, O-ring, VANOS solenoid fastener. Check for fault codes related to engine starting blacked, etc. Do you believe in such a small change in temp does make a difference? Check the intake ducts, manifold and lines for leaks. Regardless, I am a bit comfortable driving the vehicle now without fears of the engine falling apart as a result of excess rattling. Goes down to 90 when changes set point to 90. What happen is th oil filter brake in 2 !!! My suggestion is if you have determined you need a VANOS solenoid by cleaning or swapping side to side, replace both solenoids. However this doesn't solve the problem: 1 When the car stops fast at stop light, and where it almost comes to complete stop, the rpm will have a sudden drop to 400 then jump up to 700-800 and starts rattle until comes to stable 600. Is the VANOS active or stuck in that position? Your scan tool may not be able to read the fault, one will be stored. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Literally an ever so subtly side to side rolling sway feeling, not a rough idle or misfire, That could be normal or due to work engine mounts. I would start with the crank sensor, test it and replace if necessary. I wish I was getting a code so I could figure this out. Other Local, State, & Federal Elected Officials, REQUEST A FIRE INSPECTION (FOR CONSTRUCTION). If you moved the solenoids around and the codes remained, you may have larger issues. Think the code is FGSTNR 01 although I could have gotten that wrongNew buyer. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi there I have a 2008 e90 335i month ago got a 2a99 code and limp mode took it to the dealer changed oil and filter and spark plugs thy said hey couldn't find anything wrong with it the car was running fine month later got the same code turned the car on and off and half check engine went away runs fine Cleard the codes and now I did swap th vanos and cleaned them to see if that helps I just hope it isn't the bearing ledge I'm screwed than, If the code followed the swap, it is likely the solenoids. Hello there, great article. Interesting that sometimes it does not happen for hours. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi, I have had questions of vanos here and it was solve simply by changing engine oil from Valvoline to Shel Helix 9 months ago. Pelican Parts specializes in performance and OEM-quality replacement parts for Porsche, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, MINI and other European marques. and whats an estimate on how much will it cost to get it fixed at independent shop? Thanks Nick. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. When I shut down the error is away but the next day it comes back. If you need to, use warm soapy water. After spending a lot of money I have the following codes now. Copy and paste this code into your website. I have replaced intake vanos solenoid and intake cam sensor. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Could be a timing issue. was thinking of doing this myself first before spending 400+ bux at the dealer. Best regards Fredrik, What and when are you using for the throttle data? The greater the load, or the harder I depress the accelerator, the worse the "stumbling/missing/hesitating" becomes. Sounds more like a sensor failing once it gets hot. Is it normal for vanos units to need replacement at this mileage? Sounds off. Any other ideas? Any chance the P0017 could be related to a bad coil? I would have to agree, new codes. Using a timing kit found both Vanos were out to the crank by around 1 tooth when at tdc! Any ideas?? *** ***NEW CLIENTS MUST COME IN AT LEAST 10 MINUTES PRIOR TO START OF CLASS.***. What is the fuel trim doing at idle, 2500 RPM no load and a steady cruise? My warranty would have been up in 4 months. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Same mechanic replaces second solenoid. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Thanks, Nick Some kind of drawing would really help. My OBD read 2A9A. Thanks for the direction- reading through the website and threads you guys are brilliant. Check if the drive belt is coming apart and entering the crankshaft seal. Applying a good amount of force on the bracket but no prevail. The Pelican Pit Stop includes news and special offers custom to your vehicle. Hi Nick, the description for fault code PO54B reads Cold Start "B" Camshaft Position Timing Over-Retarded Bank 1. I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. Once you figure out what is missing, it will be easier to diagnose. If problem wasn't present before working on solenoids, you are likely in the right area. Solenoids, vanos actuator or timing guides / chain. I have installed a new exhaust camshaftsensor, nothing changed. The only issue is now the MPG has dropped about 20% from pre-fixing. I would lean more toward VANOS or engine timing. Hello Nick, if you recall from our previous conversation, I had issues with my BMW 318i N46 Engine. I've a 320i e90, rough at idle very shakey and then corrects and gets 02 sensor fault, reset fault and gets shakey again, appears to be misfiring 1&4 changed coils,plugs, both pre cat 02 sensors ccv valve and recently had top end rebuild, could vanos be my issue? Other symptoms include: -adding a quart of oil every 450 miles but no smoke produced and no leaks -RPM surges -very rarely a misfire-like symptom new coils/plugs are in No other codes. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Nick, Jim here I have a 2006 530i. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Depends on the year and models of your vehicle. I get the feeling I may go back and forth with the dealer for a while. Hi Nick,I just replaced 2 solenoids but car starts to shake only after 10 miles of driveany suggestions? - Nick at Pelican Parts. So they could find the issue. I'm getting the following codes for my 2011 328i xdrive. Could be a compression issue. or I heard someone says DISA valve? The engine is misfiring check engine light flashing on startup and low RPM pull away then remains solid, so I decided to change plugs and coils. help? Here are fault codes you may have if a VANOS solenoid is causing your problem, 2A9A Cam sensor, inlet signal invalid for synchronization, 2A98 (P0016) Crankshaft intake correlation value outside ref range, 2A82 intake VANOS jammed mechanically, 2A9B exhaust camshaft sensor signal invalid for synchronization, 2A99 (P0017) Crankshaft position sensor and exhaust camshaft, correlation value outside reference range, 2A87 exhaust VANOS jammed mechanically. If I keep pressing the gas the car keeps on vibrating and jerking. Car runs fine, but noticed a slight performance drop when accelerating quickly. If it were degraded due to an issue, you would have a fault for fuel trim. However, this can at times be VANOS or Valvetronic issues. Are you thinking that this rattle is coming from inside the engine? Could be the timing chain, possible worn guides. Please advise! Hard to say with little info. Your best bet, is to check the actual verse desired camshaft timing using a scan tool. I had an idea that maybe the High pressure fuel pump is going bad but I have had no major symptoms of it. I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. Any thoughts why? Noises are hard to give advice on, but first be sure your oil level is correct. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Codes showing this time 29d1 combustion misfire cylinder 5, 29d2 combustion misfire cylinder 6, 29d0 combustion misfire cylinder 4. Could it be the sensor on top of the motor that controls the Valvetronic Motor? - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have scanned the car and a fault code 2A67 is present, problem could be in the circuit or the valvetronic motor. I just replaced on my BMW 335i 2007 both vanos solenoids and camshaft sensors, because the engine light went on with the only code P0012 "A" camshaft position timing over retarded bank 1. 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