But was there a Rachel in real life? Detectives launched a murder inquiry after a mother and son were both stabbed at a house in Miles. In legal terms, it was unique in British criminal history. Manchester. The teenager was attacked just before 4:30pm on Saturday on one of the busiest shopping days of the year.. "I'd stopped eating in March," he would later explain. He, in turn, went to Judge Maddison. They were empty of hope. "Only he can walk through the door. These characters spoke his language, a blend of northern-England vulgarisms and the cheerful adolescent code of chat rooms. Mark was, he told John, falling in love, ceaselessly trying to arrange a rendezvous with the girl. For the past six months, Mark had communicated with a variety of people on the chat room, a site dedicated to Manchester teenagers. The next day, 29 June 2003, Boy A carried out Boy B's orders "to the letter", the court heard. John, from Greater Manchester, pleaded guilty at Manchester crown court to incitement to murder and perverting the course of justice. John had created the fantasy that led to his own stabbing. Mark, for example, was to stab his friend while saying: "Love you bro Make sure he knows you love him. Not a spelling or grammatical error, Hogg decided. not believe Boy B intended to harm him. There were no demands to see Janet Dobinson, who had sworn that she would engineer his freedom. Just a few well-chosen words typed into Google are enough to call up some media stories identifying John as a stabbing victim last year, as well as other articles, more recent, revealing that in fact the victim incited his own attempted murder. A man has been arrested in Kent on suspicion of murder after a boy died in north Manchester on 9 June 2022. Boy A: u want me 2 take him 2 trafford centre and kill him in the middle of the trafford centre?? At first, the investigation was like any other. The court heard Boy B's actions were part of an "extraordinary suicide attempt". Everything is as it was that June day when Mark carried the six-inch knife they had bought together. "And sometimes it would be a week or a few weeks before that character came back," always without a hitch, Hogg says. "Because he had the friendship with Rachel and Janet.". Boy B survived, and spent a week in Wythenshawe Hospital recovering. Which wasn't, unfortunately, saying much. 2003 June 29 Historical Events Sports History US Senior Open Men's Golf, Inverness Club: Bruce Lietzke wins by 2 strokes from Tom Watson Golfer Tom Watson Famous Deaths Katharine Hepburn (1907-2003) American actress (Adam's Rib, On Golden Pond), dies of natural causes at 96 2003 Highlights About June 29, 2003 Day of the Week: Sunday A murder investigation is underway after a 14-year-old boy was stabbed to death in a "ferocious attack." He was injured alongside his mother, 40, who is currently in hospital. In the months since the stabbing, he had been working out regularly at the juvenile-detention-center gym; he had grown muscular, hard. A great deal of thought went into her gestation. The word was "mybye," and it was used by John, Kevin, Dobinson, and Lyndsey. People will hear, please be quiet," the older teenager told him. thats wot ur asking? He was given a three-year supervision order, banned from any contact with Mark and was told he must only access the internet under adult supervision and must not enter chatrooms. When pressed by police, the boy would finally concede, reluctantly and only after changing his story several times, that it was his best friend, Mark, who had stabbed him, though John said he had no idea why. Mark called the ambulance and told police officers they had been attacked but after CCTV footage disproved his story, he was charged with attempted murder. One final thing, both mothers told their sons. 3 in the hierarchy of the British secret service, as she informs correspondents), on whom John clearly lavished special effort. A multitude of other people had also apparently come and gone on the chat room during this period. The police officer who led the investigation said the boys' lives and the lives of their families had been devastated. Odd that Dobinson used it. Then the stepfather packed up when John was seven, and he, his mother, and his younger sister had to move to a smaller house. Nonetheless, he is certain of Mark's sincerity. put her head under water. the perpetually besotted Mark asked her. It wasn't John whom Mark loved, the boy knows. As Clarke spoke about how John had manipulated the older boy, deploying a stream of imaginary virtual characters to lure Mark into carrying out his murder, he sneaked a look at Mark's face. Around the time of this incident, she slipped into her son's room and checked his laptop, where she found that Mark was a frequent on-screen presence. Detective Chief Inspector Julian Ross, of Greater Manchester police, said: "The initial contact was made when the older boy went into an internet chatroom and talked to a person purporting to be a 16-year-old girl. Also, John is certain that people are always talking about him once they believe him to be out of earshot. "The continuity and his memory were phenomenal.". Nicholas Clarke, prosecuting, told the court, This case serves as a stark warning of the dangers of the dark side of the internet.. On 26 July 2020, 4 people were stabbed in Moss Side in Manchester, England, 17-year-old Mohamoud Mohamed died at the scene. The 17-year-old boy, known only as Boy A . Indefatigably. "I haven't really thought about it," Mark replied. John screamed. What appeared on the screen was a revelation of flattering significance: "This is the UK's biggest secret I CAN TRUST YOU WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT YOU WHILE I TELL YOU?". It was out of fear. He did reasonably well at school, although he wasn't the most academic person. But when it emerged that the boys had met through a teenage chatroom, detectives examined their computers. A few details about the man have been released but he has not been identified by officers. The boy was, no mistaking it, aghast. By all accounts he too, like Mark, was an ordinary teenager, nothing in his history would suggest hed be involved in something so terrible. 17,029 pages were read in the last minute. As the boys disappeared into the alley, that camera swung around and followed them. Offences of this kind under normal circumstances would result in an extremely lengthy custodial sentence, Judge David Maddison said, but these could not be described as any normal circumstances. The two were instead given supervision orders, John three years, Mark two. 01:25 AEDT 29 May 2004 "He was kneeling on me saying, 'Trust me,' holding the knife to my stomach. John would later concede that he knew exactly how much he had traumatized Mark by engineering the death of Rachel and permitting the ostensible killer to describe her last moments to Mark himself: "Kicked all her stomach. John saw his friend surrounded by admiring girls. an incredulous Mark wrote the British agent Janet Dobinson on June 28, 2003. It is clear he doesn't have much sympathy for the boy whose brush with death prompted the unprecedented charge. A "matrix of deceit" is how the prosecution described John's maneuvers to engineer his own death, inveigling an unsuspecting friend into "a web of deception." "The aim of it all was to find Janet Dobinson," says Ross. "The amount of data on those two computers was about 133 gigabytes, masses of data," Sally Hogg, a police analyst, tells me. "Everything was planned out the previous day," said DCI Ross. At the boy's second interview, Ross recalls, Mark finally confessed to the stabbing. ", Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. The following day the two boys met and went to the Trafford Centre where they bought a kitchen knife. "Angry and upset" was how he later described his reaction to the news about his "girlfriend." Boy A, a 15-year-old, stabbed Boy B twice, but he did not die, Manchester Crown Court heard. Kennie Carter was found badly injured in Thirlmere Avenue, Stretford, shortly before 19:00 GMT on. And he would sit and read a book rather than talk with his friends," she revealed. As Mark would discover on the chat-room site, Rachel, along with her "brother" John, were in a state of ceaseless peril, threatened with abduction and rape by a self-proclaimed homosexual stalker named KevinJohn's fourth character. For months John had corresponded in an Internet chat room with Mark, a bland-featured 16-year-old who possesses as his most striking traits a vast forehead, a tendency to open every sentence with "Ermmm," and, it would later be claimed, an almost infinite store of credulity. No media alarm should have been raised. That girl was in fact the younger boy.". After months of analysis, detectives were able to establish that it was John who sent the final messages from his home computer on the night of 28 June 2003 and had planned his own murder. A man has been charged with murder after a 15-year-old boy was stabbed to death in Manchester last week. Then Mark should call an ambulancebut "not st8 away." According to Janet, John was the single most important person in the country, as he knew the code to access a secret safe hidden at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean that only a few countries knew about. The final internet chatroom exchange took place on 28 June last year. He brought into play Janet Dobinson"a spy, said John. January 13, 2004: New York, NY FKL. If John was being eaten away by his passion for the Internet world, Mark was devoured. Wot shud i say 2 him? She added: "It sounds so far-fetched that he could have been absorbed by it but there was nothing in the body of the text that would have made him suspicious. From John's laptop emerged what the prosecutor would subsequently describe as "an Internet soap opera moving from one scene to another, each character and story line more fantastic than the last." "And jus leave him 2 die . Thanks very much. But the court was told that in reality Boy B had fallen in love with Boy A, conned him into performing sex acts on a webcam, and tricked him into stabbing him twice in Altrincham, Greater Manchester. Both gangs are believed to have grown out of Manchester's notorious Gooch and Doddington outfits. 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