In the early 1980s the University of Arizona, Germanys Max Planck Institute, the Arcetri Observatory of Italy, and the Tucson-based Research Cooperation came together to prepose the development of a $200 million astronomical facility consisting of up to 18 telescopes, the largest of which was to be built on the San Carlos Apaches sacred mountain. And why is the Vatican interested and want to invest in something like this? In 1988, they succeeded in getting Congress to attach a rider to the Arizona-Idaho Conservation Act which exempted the first 3 telescopes from any restrictions in the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Lucifer was the light bearer not the morning star, unless youre reading a Bible version from corrupt manuscripts. Through owning all of the information coming from the heavens, along with NASA, they been able to steer and control the narratives that we all learn about what is, and has been going on in our universe. The Apache effectively remained both in their own minds and in the law, in possession of significant property rights to their territory, Welch said. Well, let's leave the Vatican's telescope, and go back over across the street to the LBT. Photo by David Harvey / National Science Foundation Captivating comments from Jesuit priests like Guy Consolmagnoa leading astronomer who often turns up in media as a spokesman for the Vatican who has worked at NASA and taught at Harvard and MIT and who currently splits his time between the Vatican Observatory and laboratory (Specola Vaticana) headquartered at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and Mt. Graham in Arizona to mount a telescope there? The Apache regard the Mt. Yet in response to the ASC's claims of sacred land, Father George Coyne (a Jesuit astronomer who was the director of the Vatican Observatory) wrote, "We are not convinced by any of the arguments thus far presented that Mt. Vatican Observatory VS San Carlos Apache Sacred Land Mount Graham, also known as Dzil Nchaa Si An, rises majestically from the Sonoran Desert in northwestern Arizona. 03 Nov. 2012. VATT, 2012. Your email address will not be published. In addition there is a unique meteorite collection from which a knowledge of the early history of the solar system is being derived. I KNOW that. FREIstaatliche Religionsgemeinschaft LichtlanD, LichtlanD. Only a few years later, scientist began to see the squirrel reappear at higher altitudes on Mount Graham. (McLeod, Corbin). Welch said that in all, about 15 million acres were carved out of the public domain to be designated Apache lands. "Apache Tribe Distressed by Privatization of Dacred Land." Arizona Daily Star.11 December 2014. Scientific researchers from around the world make use of MGIO facilities. Dedicated in 1993, the VATT utilizes some of the most advanced and innovative optics, electronics and mechanics available once again positioning the Vatican at the forefront of astronomy.. And yes, its named for the Devil, whose name itself means morning star [and which] happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. Northern Arizona News, 2 Feb. 2011. What if we showed you, however, that there is no Biblical Character by the name of Lucifer; and the enemy, that is hasatan, is never, at any point in the Bible, referred to by name? Mount Graham was the free land of the San Carlos Apache, and remained on their reservation until the United States Federal Government claimed it it 1872. Tucson. This action set the stage for conflict a century later. It was because we were moving as well as the planets. An international consortium of astronomers composed of the Vatican, the Arcetri of Italy and the Max Planck Institute of Germany led by the University of Arizona has proposed multiple telescopes in the old-growth forest summit of Mr. Graham. As a Mason, it never fails to tickle me when I read the strange ideas that some people have of the fraternity. Also its quite notable these people who were telling the masses the earth was the center of the universe was at the very time and continued to operate their own observatory etc etc The Catholics were the largest persecuters of different cultures from the 1500s on. Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. At nearly the same exact time, in 1609, Galileo Galilei built his first telescope by learning how to grind his own glass to make his star viewer. They view the mountain as the embodiment of spiritual energy rather than as a specific place. The mountain has ancient, undisturbed burials, as well as being a source for medicinal plants and a location for ceremonies. "Mount Graham is considered one of our holy places, one of the sacred mountains to the east and to the south," said Ramon Riley, a White Mountain Apache member who heads the tribe's cultural resource department. Apache-Sitgreaves Observatory is a private facility about 60 miles east of Payson that offers viewing programs by reservation only. This has been fun. The only answer being that central casting and planning want it that way. Was there an ulterior motive behind this? Telescope. If you want to learn more about the Vatican's L.U.C.I.F.E.R. Posted By: Steve Allen January 14, 2016. This ironic conflict pits the Vatican against Apache spiritual leaders, and astronomers against biologists. Regardless of support from the National Council of Churches, the Presidents Advisory Council on Historical Preservation and the former president Bill Clinton on behalf of the respect for the Apache Cultural and Spiritual life the observatory still remains on Mount Graham. Ola Cassadore Davis, Apache Survival Coalition, PO Box 1237, San Carlos, AZ 85550; (520) 475-2543. Funding for the project was only possible with the generosity of private, philanthropic support. of the Morning! Web. National Optical Astronomy Observatory. Early Masonic magicians like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and Newton, along with their modern Masonic astro-not counter-parts like Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins, hand-in-hand with NASA and world Freemasonry using everything from books, magazines, and television to computer-generated imaging, have succeeded, in the minds of the masses, to pick up the fixed Earth, shape it into a ball, spin it in circles, and throw it around the Sun! As they learned what was at stake, the San Carlos Apache Tribe issued several resolutions against the observatory. As the project went forward organizations including the Smithsonian Institute, Ohio State University, and the University of Chicago withdrew from the project in support of protecting the environment as well as the cultural and religious history of the San Carlos Apache. how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Father Coyne stated that to convince him that he needed to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-Americans anthropologists. Im taking deep breaths as I finished reading this statement. St. Peters & Pauls Catholic churchs address is: 666 Filbert St. San Francisco,CA in North Beach. In the early 1980s, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as the preferred site for a huge observatory with up to 20 telescopes. When readingAnd the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. (Revelation 8:10,11-King James Bible) I was interested in the Wormwood star. Four years later, and decades since the Vatican initiated its occupation, the Pope has yet to reach out to the San Carlos Apache Tribe. So the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona, that is next to Lucifer which is NOT part of the Vatican Observatory as others have claimed. As co-director of the working group for science and epistemology George Coyne, S.J., Director of the Vatican Observatory, initiated a series of research publications entitled, STUDI GALILEIANI. Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! []. The Vatican, which has invested in the project, challenged the sacredness of the mountain based on the lack of structures or objects. We have been fighting or trying to make the people understand that we feel that anything that'splaced on the ground or anything that puts out radiation or any kind of electrical equipment destroys our way of praying.. On this sacred and ecologically diverse mountain the University of Arizona and other international scientists chose to build an astronomical observatory. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists. <p>Guess What Happens When "They're The ONLY" Game In Town? The Annual Report is distributed to more than 400 institutes around the world. Possibly! The Large Binocular Telescope which is not affiliated with the Vatican Observatory is a pair of 8.4m telescopes side by side. You have yet to return the courtesy. An overview of the Oak Flat campground, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2021, near Superior, Arizona. 3.) Doubt it Would the Wormwood star be involved? So God created man ( not aliens) man created the telescope and the Vatican created the laws to enslave man. Construction of an astronomical observatory threatens the integrity of Mount Graham, Ariz., sacred to the San Carlos and White Mountain Apache. Original: Mar 12, 2013. The National Optical Astronomy Observatories rejected Mount Graham years ago. In a solemn audience, held on 10 November 1979 before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the College of Cardinals and the Diplomatic Corps to the Holy See, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Albert Einstein, John Paul II requested that theologians, scholars and historians, animated by a spirit of sincere collaboration, will study the Galileo case more deeply This desire was concretized in the constitution by the Pope in July 1981 of a commission to coordinate the research of theologians, scientists and historians which would help to further clarify the events which occurred between Galileo and the Church and, more generally, the Ptolemaic Copernican controversy of the 16th and 17th centuries in which the Galileo affair is situated. Since the power line was not included in the first phase of the project, opponents of the project challenged UA in court on the grounds that the power line and all future construction should be subject to the NEPA, ESA, and NHPA. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres . then how do you like the show??? Firstly, what causes anything to hover? The 500 year Great Lie can easily be understood in that the Vatican, the Royal Society of London and Nazi German run NASA have controlled all information from space about our place in the Universe and all stories related up until this very day. (Mount Graham Coalition.) Answer: The Vatican did not name a telescope "Lucifer.". The church held most knowledge in books which had laboriously been handwritten by priests until then. Find telescopes and instruments, telescope time applications, staff and mountain contacts, and faculty and staff scientific interests. So we are indoctrinated, and by college no less. I think its strange that this cult which clearly states you should (as does the Bible)avoid all appearance of evil has partnered with any group that chooses an acronym such as Lucifer. At the time, the University of Arizona was in the midst of constructing the $87 million Large Binocular Telescope, billed as the largest optical telescope on Earth. The how is best answered by the one that designed the whole mechanism and set them on a path. (RNS/Alejandra Molina) The Apache believe Oak Flat is a "blessed place" where Ga'an guardians or. Well, brace yourself, because we are going expose this myth for what it is! Mount Graham Red Squirrels. Earth Island Institute. With these rich traditions as a basis and in order to counteract the longstanding accusations of hostility of the Church towards science, Pope Leo XIII in his Motu Proprio Ut Mysticam of 14 March 1891 formally refounded the Vatican Observatory and located it on a hillside behind the dome of St. Peters Basilica. Notice, the Master says I saw Satan not I saw Lucifer/Haylel etc. Graham: Apaches and Astrophysical Development in Arizona | Cultural Survival. The Fight for Dzil Nchaa Si An, Mt. First, we'll look at how the Mt. More on this on the "Vatican L.U.C.I.F.E.R. The first two telescopes are small, inexpensive ($3-8 million each) and easily removable. Graham in south eastern Arizona, and is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory. They routinely murdered less civilized (their definition) people and destroyed their culture. Collaborating with the Steward Observatory, the Vatican Observatory built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) on Mt. Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. #24 Why Did So Many Apollo Astronots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three YearsTime? ), In Italy, a center of early printing, print shops had been established in 77 cities and towns by 1500. <, DiCosola, Maria. 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