These are surprisingly inaccurate pellets that group two, three or four pellets together (1-2 inch groups) and send two or three away from the group (2-3 inches away from main group). I like the way this sight looks. I am hoping that I get great results with these pellets and I hope to find the best to use with my air rifle out of these 3. Secondly do you have any information on the Steroid upgrade done by Mac1? On another note, do you happen to know what the original velocity was for the german made tell II air pistols, made back in the 20s or 30s? No worries though, Ill just keep looking. I like my Crosman 140 and its cousin the Benjamin 392. At least thats what I have heard. Ive never tested one but I trust anything Webley makes in England. Im not sure if its because I am used to spring guns, but it is just too timeconsuming, and cumbersome for me. Or should I try out the Crosman 800x? I know what Pellgunoil is. And elevation adjustment ( allow you to adjust the sight up and down). [url]http://www.mac1airgun.com/steriodags.html[/url]. New arrival from Benjamin is the Cayden precharged pneumatic. Also what sort of velocity do you think Im getting at 8 pumps with the 15.4 grain gamo hunters? If you need assistance, contact our technicians at 888-262-4867, ext. Affiliate Program | Will the model 392 repair kit at pyramydair be compatible with my model 342?Thanks,Jovie. I was out this morning scouting the edge of the woods behind my house and there seemed to be a lack of squirrel chatter, and i hear no birds whatsoever. I have heard that the 392 loses accuracy after 5 pumps, although I havent this to be the case. , Copyright 1999-2022 Pyramyd Air. The third was as far forward as I could comfortably hold the rifle and shoot, which was right on the slope of the pump lever (my palm was right on the sloping area). Ill be gettin premiers for my rifle, cant find the jsb pellets, so what would be the next best in your own opinion? You might ask Crosman, who owns the Benjamin company. What I dont know is how this would translate into on game performance. If the Talon is accurate and I could buy a small air compresor or something like that It sounds like the one I need. Yes, that is entirely normal. The Bug Buster is just a scope and has little bearing on the Steroid tune. Dont always look for someone elses answers, look for hints. And dont fail to lubricate the pump head with Crosman Pellgunoil. I suppose Ill have to wait and see for myself. It makes shooting the gun nearly impossible. The Blue Streak and 392 are very equivalent. I have killed cottontails at 35 yards with a Blue Streak. For the .177 caliber model, the specs with alloy pellets are: The .22 caliber version gives the following specs with alloys: Scope mounting continues to be possible by using the intermount system, as with previous 392/7 models. Thanks bb. At the risk of having this thread moved to the airgun mods gate , the valve work entails taking the valve apart, shortening the check valve about 1/8" and putting it back in the front of the valve, dropping a light spring of appropriate diameter and length in on top of the check and then dropping a small washer into the valve.The washer must be small enough to fit in the valve, but large . Should I only see the front post or will I see both the front post and rear sight through the hole? Does the accuracy drop off considerably on a steroid modded gun if you pump it to capacity? Multi-pumps with scopes are VERY sensitive to handling. I cant wait to shoot it, but i dont have any pellets yet, so i pumped the gun once (yep, its a little hard to pump, and i cant use my left hand, severed the tendon couple months ago), and set it in the corner of my room. It would be cheaper to eliminate this swelling, but they keep it because it makes pumping easier. Also, the fit of the receiver to the stock is a little loose; tightening of the screw did nothing to fix this. (take or give $25-50) I was looking at the Crosman 800x, but have heard that their accuracy isnt that great. Notice there is a grooved piece of metal into which the sight clips into, with 2 clips on either side of the gun. We just want to do a little pest control and not spend a lot of money on something we dont need. Congratulations! They look like they have Weaver bases (a cross-key to attach to a cross-slotted base) and they can only fit a Weaver or Picatinny base. maybe maybe maybe maybe. If so, the peep needs a higher front sight to compensate. Id recommend the 392 .22 caliber version of this rifle for game control. BB-Two more questions: I was under the impression that the 392 and the .20 cal bluestreak are essentially the same rifle in different calibers, however they are both listed at 685 fps on your site. PS: It looks just like my Blue Streak 1974 model serial 014454 that has never failed me. Please tell us your experience after you break it in. (from about 50 ft) thank you. Sorry about the typo. The only oils I have in the house are cooking oils. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/b-square-20054-1-sport-utility-rings-weaver-dovetail?a=432, http://www.airgunexpress.com/NEWJPEGS/115-48-0397-E.jpg, https://www.pyramydair.com/product/ics-airsoft-silicone-oil-spray?a=772, http://home.joimail.com/~sifu_mcconahy/index.html, http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2077747&cp=&fbn=Taxonomy%7CBB+Guns%2FAmmo&f=Taxonomy%2FTSA%2F2098726&fbc=1&kw=.22+ammo&parentPage=search, Generation 2 .25 caliber Benjamin Marauder: Part 12, Why You Should Hunt Coyote This Offseason. Elevation adjustment no problem, now dead-on level with the 10 ring. It now has a Leapers 3-9x 40scope on it. Thanks in advance for any tips, etc. The Benjamin 392 requires very little maintenance: You only need to use a light coat of Crosman PellgunOil in the barrel to prevent rust. Thats why they dont mention it. TThanks for the advice! thanks! It could be my failing eyesight, too. George Pena at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. BB, Well whatever you call it, it was loud. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. $0.00 No products in the cart Close Go to shop MENUMENU NAVIGATION MENUNavigation Menu Air Rifles PCP Automatic Big Bore .30/.303 Caliber 9mm/.357 Caliber .45 Caliber .50 Caliber Repeating Single Shot Semi-Auto Ambi & Left Hand Ambidextrous Left Hand Arrow / Pellet They are all very nice guns and are accurate enough to pot a cottontail rabbit at 35 yards with open sights. If you have the money, I recommend either one of the Sheridans or the Benjamin 392. As for the Benjamin spring gun, I like multi-pumps better in this price range. I dont have to do word verification and Blogger still loses some of my comments. Benjamin Trail NP. Thomas. Im just curious, but would a firearm scope (for a .22 rifle) be compatible with the b272 intermount? I just want a little added insurance if you know what I mean. thx alot and thx for the blogs, the enjoyment, the help, and everything u have done for us pellet rifle enthusiasts,Insomniac. http://members.aol.com/vintairgun/order.htm. Oil there. Looked alot at Mac 1, but got the Talon SS W/ 24barrel also, thanks again for your advice on that one. I had a Crosman 111 pistol with a brass barrel from aound 1950-54 and it was a tackdriver. That is not too much. The rear sight got in the way when i mounted it though, so I positioned the scope turret closer to the rear ring. Had to get a special scope mount, which works great, but its annoying to not have attachment points built in. how many tins or how many pellets should i purchace? I guess Im not yet getting the fact that you dont just line them up. The 20 would shoot an almost as heavy pellet at the same velocity which would penetrate better but the 22 I would think would have more impact. thx for all the help, too, and, ironicaly, ur help really helped me. The trigger guard was thinner and blued. Just sent a detailed blog, and because I cant do the verification BS, Its lost in where ever, and Really exaspirating too!! Being that the barrel is steel and not brass like my benjis, how often should I clean it. Have you tried oiling the pump head with CROSMAN PELLGUNOIL? So my question to you is, what is a springer thats good for accuracy in this price range? Every once in awhile, I get an answer in before you do. Get Crosman Pellgunoil. The 1400 has a blow-off valve, which means it isnt supposed to valve lock from over-pumping. Thats with a 392. Part shortages is causing numerous manufacturers to alter their original intentions. B.B. I dont know anything about air rifles but have a need for one to shoot crows, foxes, raccoons as mentioned before. Lightweight at 5.5-pounds for easy carrying afield. what can i do. I owned a Crosman 76 (?) Help! I recently purchased my 392 from pyramid and have been absolutely delighted with it. Thats just a play on the company name. I have a late 60s model 312 and on the left side, below the bolt, it says Benjamin Franklin.By the way there is a potential problem with several older airguns and they are offering $50.00 credit toward the purchase of a 392 or a 397. It still looks great and I think it is time to fire it again after sitting in the closet for 18 years. The price for the Benjamin 392 multi-pump air gun is about $150. They did fall below target but Id expect that being slightly heavier that the crosmans. Its made specifically for the 392/397. How many times can you fill the Talon bottle from the Dive tank assuming you are operating on a low power setting on the Talon? Yes to the dive cylinder, no to the hand pump because of the effort it requires when you go above 2,500 psi. BB,Wow thanks for the quick reply. But it can valve lock if pumped too much and the modern triggers are not much better than the 1400 trigger was. The heavy pellets like the Kodiak and Logun wont be as accurate at low power, and the JSB is the all-around champion in these rifles. I tried shooting with a firm and loose grip in three different spots. The Benjamin Models 397 and the 392 have roots dating back to 1949. plinking would leave me too stationary outside and id likely freeze. Thanks for your help. Ive adjusted it up as far as it will go and still way off. Let us help! Welcome to the blog. Merry Christmas. The Benjamin 392 is an excellent choice for a reasonable price. Your Benjamin (not Benjamin Franklin) 312 was probably made in 1955/56. The second reason is the additional effort the 392 takes with pumps 6 through 8. Then i moved my hand up towards the muzzle of the gun, and my group sizes shrank by half! Thomas, BB, Never mind, I figured it out, Some of the letters in the word verification are capitols! Household oils as in 3-in-1. Crosman also has ceased production of their .20 caliber Premier pellet, so there is one less great pellet for the Blue Streak. Thwap! Surely Im doing something or multiple things wrong. You cock the mainspring with the sidelever. The current model doesnt really match up in quality as I remember. I enjoy long range plinking, i.e. Classic pistols that have been discontinued. Neither Walmart nor the BPS had the silicon chamber oil much less pellgun oil. Alot of us love and shoot that gun.FYI, you posted to a blog that B.B. I purchased the Benjamin 392 Commerative. You are welcome to post questions or comments on the current blog where literally thousands of people willingly give you the benefit of their knowledge and experience. However, I am a little concerned about the noise level. Affiliate Links are prominently displayed under the heading BUY FROM. I recently purchased a 392. Six pumps on slopeThe best group I got out of all my shots was 1 and 7/16 inches, which I got by firmly holding onto the slope (average of 2 and 3/16 inches). For more on the in-depth comparison between synthetic and wood stock, see this post. This blog is packed with good info about the guns Ive so patiently examined but still never held in my hands. You cannot go wrong with this gun: its sturdy, reliable, durable, recoilless, and is built to last for years with very little maintenance. Other people would like to read your questions and you are hidden here, because of the Google software. I know the only difference is the caliber. It should soon be available as a peep sight. Heavier pellets usually dont drop, they climb higher from longer dwell time in the barrel during recoil. I know that breakbarrels do not bend when u break them, but what would a multipump do? Please try again. With a good hit, your rifle is more than enouigh. For quite some time, we have offered a proprietary Baker Airguns Benjamin 392/397 scope mount for the 39X series of guns. Thanks for helping someone who (obviously! I know the 392 has a lot of loyal fans, but unfortunately, I wasnt pleased with it. As I began my research, I ran across this website and this particular thread. Once again there is no Benjamin Franklin airgun. Got a giggle out of it, but we wont be doing that anymore!! If I got the Scuba Refill clamp would I just find a dive shop or would I need to buy my own tank? I do know that extra-heavy .20 and .22 pellets are not as accurate as medium-weight pellets. The 392 has a knock-open valve whose trigger remains the same always. The newer rifles or products typically are using better materials and better designs so they would perform better. They are of equal power and accuracy but have different powerplants. we have taken various small sppons and bent the handles around poles that we put at different ranges, for the rest of the afternoon I shot 13 times at the small soup spoon at 20 yrds and hit it 13 out of 13 times with the open sights (that I never adjusted), My friend had initially boohooed a pump gun but was really impressed with how good looking and accurate it was, but mainly how powerful it was for some pump gun as he put it. Block Resistance Since the Talon SS dosent have much recoil couldnt I use one of these scopes. I was wondering what your recomendations would be on what cal to get either the .177 or the .22 I am trying to get rid of a couple blackbirds near my house. I sight in for 20 yards, then learn how much to hold under when the target is closer. You can hit a quarter at 25 yards with the open sights, which should be plenty. No, I havent heard of that, but there are a lot of people interested in the gun so it doesnt surprise me. I know this is a lot of questions but I am a complete novice when it comes to air guns. I dont even recommend scoping a multi-pump. I was suprised to find that the predators gave me a .75group at 10 yards. I would defeat my purpose if it was louder than a 22LR. Its sealed by an O-ring. I don't want the synthetic stock option. You dont TYPE links! Is 15 yards too close for this gun? I also like the Gamo Shadow 1000, but be prepared to break it in. my 392 holds that pump for years. All above were all over the place. This air rifle is definitely one that can train you to be a better shot. bbp, this is a site you and pyramid sould be linked from: http://www.eatel.net/~amptech/elecdisc/rifledemos.htm. 3. The Benjamin is a classic design to say the least. This gun is one that truly harkens back to the good old days. Even when Crosman bought Benjamin, they left the quality alone. The B-Square adjustable mounts are really necessary, but I like to keep all the scopes adjustments ready for sight-in, so I use them. Shoots most pellets great. Beeman makes a similar mount designed for barrel droop but its not offered by Pyramid. I have not heard that Crosman has any such gun in the works, but you might look at the Daisy 22SG. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! Pull the handle down to lock the gun and you are ready to shoot in a few seconds. Pyramyd Air provides it as a service to their customers, but Crosman will not recognize it. As for silicone chamber oil, why not order it here? But just a tad of oil mind you. How much should I expect to pay for an older model, but not old enough to be collectable? Insomniac gave you a great answer. Try Benjamin Sheridan Diabolos, which is a domed pellet weighing 14.3 grains in .22. It was purchased brand new in 1972, when I was 13 years old. no one else well be down there and i have safety glasses. Thanks again. 4.4 out of 5 stars 9 product ratings Expand: Ratings. I dont want to scratch up the black-on-brass finish. Something that will compliment the Benjamin 392. He also honed his writing skills by sharing his outdoor experiences with fellow schoolmates through their high schools magazine. looks like im heading to sports authority. I didnt think there would be much difference between the 0.177 pellet from the Diana and the 0.218 pellet from the Benji, but I was wrong. is too close to call, and each rifle will differ by more than that. I suspect that it is, but I dont know for sure. 1. .22 pellet is heavier and has alarger diameter than the .177 pellet. You wont live long enough to wear out the barrel of a Sheridan. Based on your answers I will know what to do. Yes, the forearm goes all the way up with every pump stroke. Dont touch the scope when handling the rifle. i guess co2 refills could be a problem. This is really highly accurate gun for under 50 yards. A multi-pump appeals to some people but not others. Thanks for thinking I know the answer to this, but I dont. It sounds like you have stripped the screw threads from the holes. Reviewed in the United States on October 14, 2021. I promise. The Bug Buster 2 works with most one-inch two-piece scope rings. and my mom thinks so too. Based on all the positive comments I bought a 392 and my initial impressions are mixed. While I had no way of measuring this, pumps 4-8 seemed a lot heavier than 25 lbs. However, can you advise on windage adjustment? I dont believe in scopes on multi-pump pneumatics. so ive got eight pumps worth of air in the gun and the pump handle is open. :) Anyway I was wondering do you think a 15 year old male could easily pump this gun. The rifle pumps up ok but does not hold the charge for very long. Does the blue streak outperform the 392? Works great and quiets the slapping sound/impact on the barrel a good bit. Either one I buy, Im going to want to put the Leapers 432 Bugbuster on it, since I hear its a pretty amazing scope for the bucks. I hate to think the leapers scope is the problem becuase that would be the 3rd defected item from pyramid. I uninstalled it and tilted it back a bit and installed it. what do u think? My testing has a lot of flaws, too. Also, if you happen to scratch the black finish and brass shows though, a black sharpie marker hides it well (lets just say that my first attempt at removal involved more prying and hitting). The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. I dont know what kind of gun you have, nor the caliber. You will see Manualsamong other things. I would recommend the Daisy 22SG for two reasons. Should I store it with a pump or two of air in it? If you keep turning them, they will eventually wear out. thank you so much. which is more accurate at longer ranges the .22 crosman hollow point premier, or the .22 crosman premier domed? Why We Like The Benjamin 392. Thanks Ill try your advice. Believe it or not, it is easier to hit a 3-inch target than to group in three inches. Hey B.B. And you must hunt in season with a license. New, All-weather synthetic Stock and fore grip Monte Carlo styling It keeps a low profile on the gun, and keeps that area free right over the breech where you naturally want to put your hand to pump. The question then arises, with my current stock gun, what do you think is the maximum range that a pellet could penetrate a chucks skull? Tell me how far out both the windage and elevation knobs are turned. As for pellets, use the heaviest accurate pellet you can find. I noticed some of them were a little bent.The bolt is really easy. That isnt easy, but the BAM B26 is one solution, and the B40 is an even better one. I intend to purchase a new Benjamin Sheridan Model 392 for my upcoming birthday and to equip it with the Bug Buster 2 scope and mounts.

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