If you are stupid and want to wait months for a medical waiver. I was diagnosed with PTSD from my service in the infantry Vietnam in 1968/1969 and have received counseling for it. Find one that will help you get through the maze, not simply hand your problem off to the FAA. You can be a Sport Pilot if you have never had your FAA medical denied. At worse, you may face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Nope, they requested an entirely new one. Help is only a phone call away! Im no danger to anyone because I dont particularly like myself. I flew for 16 years in the Air Force with a known heart murmur that I know would preclude me form a civilian 1st class. The cost of the medical exam will vary by location and examiner as well as the type of exam given. In order to understand how likely it is the FAA would catch you lying, it is important to understand how they would catch you. I would have assumed since this person had been flying for awhile, and flying solo that they would have imposed sanctions such as the ones discussed above. And, apparently, if and applicant for a first medical certificate with student certificate has had epilepsy, he/she can be deferred even if seizure-free for more than 10 years. My name is not Gustavo either. As a result, I had to take an EKG. Lie, definitely not. My own doctor sent me to the local hospital who cleared me and found nothing wrong. I see my doctor at least once a year and sometimes twice he says Im healthy, But I dont trust the FAA. No faxes or emails are allowed. But the feds harass pilots, not drivers, because they can get away with it with pilots but not with drivers. Many pilots have waited months or years for their medical certificates because each new record they provide to justify their medical certificate eligibility reveals another ailment they did not disclose before. Theres also the issue of things that a doctor may speculate on that they have no training or qualifications to formally diagnose. Brian is absolutely right. The Federal Aviation Regulations and U.S. law require that FAA Form 8500-8, the application for a medical certificate, be filled out completely and truthfully'or else. Many pilots get away with submitting false information on their MedXPress applications. He memorized the color chart. If the FAA is lieing why should we worry about non-commercial pilots? People Lie to do what they love to do. The FAA as a whole believes all people should fly if they desire. He had diabetes. One is. The 8500-8 of necessity must be brief and it is very difficult to get authorization to change it. His career was essentially over with that arrest and he killed himself because of it. Those are hard to fake. He was flying with ryanair and was due to move to emirates. An aircraft is just another machine. Im old, crazy and hard of hearing bit like most experienced pilots I suppose. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.). Ive seen pilots successfully conquer exams and die days later (in flight). Well, I believe we should have to have a medical to operate a car, a motorcycle, a truck, a bus, a train or any type of machine that is exposed to or involved in transportation. Signed, RN/PPSEL/IFR. To stay current, I have been renting/flying 152s and 172s with an instructor, but that is very expensive too (the inclusion of the instructor, that is). When I was active duty Air Force we had a guy pass his medical and they drop from a heart attack the next day while sitting on his couch. Im 64 and working on my PP license. Heres a guy who was never diagnosed with depression or showed any signs of it, but still completed the act so feared by these administrators. Skye, If you have not required counselling for a few years and are not taking anti-depressants you should be good to go. A 3rd class medical should not be required for a private pilots license. We can never win with you, only lose. However you have never been treated or taken medication so probably if you disclose it the FAA would require some sort of doctors evaluation which says you are OK and that will be the end of it. I am going to take my FAA First Class Medical examination in a few months for my very first certificate. I got my ticket after age 50. They always do it under the banner of safety. Syed, Anyone who would report this immediately loses their medical and has to wait a year. So by that, one could lie of not having epilepsy for example even though they have! It is already hard enough to convince the FAA that you are healthy enough to fly after dealing with lifes curve balls. I got my license back about 10 years ago. Lying on the medical is usually unnecessary in order to keep flying, and has such potentially dire consequences for ones life, family, and finances that its not worth the risk. Its not a profession which that college students wake up and decide they want to fly a plane. During an FAA medical, a urine test will take place that checks sugars and protein levels. They are actually almost the same as for Third Class. ANY RESPONSE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! Congress should forbid the FAA from requiring any medical for recreational flying. Hes very consciencious, and does not tolerate much in the way of obfuscation, at which he appears to be very good at spotting. Most those fellas at the FAA seem pretty smart, but they must be pretty spineless too. From the details they ask about, you would think you were applying to be an astronaut. Before every flight (sometimes several per day) I self qualify myself THAT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AS PIC!!! Sometimes I think its not necessary for ATC people to have medicals. Thus the FAAs excessive emphasis, on the potential hazards of medical conditions and medications, serves only to reinforce its own bureaucratic authority. We should not be subjected to this inquisitional questionnaire in the first place. The regulations are not arbitrary. These are a few of the most frequently asked questions pilots have concerning the FAA and their medical certificate. Told the truth, The FAA took my license. Sorry, screwing around with Oklahoma City since May 2011 (not 2010). I can empathize with that Louis. I was just having so much fun and I didnt realize just how difficult it was going to be. Politicians create government agencies empowered to rule by edict. Others have their dreams dashed who lived years longer flying ultralights. Additionally, I believe this would be a tremendous economic boon for the industry as a whole. Thats a good way to get into a LOT of trouble. Most get grounded for a year? AMCD will consider much more than the information you submitted in MedXPress and your AMEs exam findings. As a pilot for over 13 years and now an AME as of this month, I understand your concern. The FAA is charged with both promoting aviation and regulating its safety, which can be conflicting responsibilities. Hmmm Wiley Post was one of the great Aviators flue around the world was he Illeagle??? Have you EVER been dizzy? Beyond criminal penalties and keeping your pilots license, there are many other reasons to be forthright with your FAA Aviation Medical Examiner (AME), but for now just as a thought experiment consider that you choose to falsify your medical certificate application. I have been asymptomatic for all of those years and I am on no medication. https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/06180933/doctorlargesquare1.jpg, https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/06142440/Air-Facts-Logo340.jpg, COPYRIGHT 2011-2023, SPORTSMAN'S MARKET, INC. All Rights Reserved. From open heart surgery and stroke to PTSD and diabetes, it is possible to qualify for an FAA medical certificate with more conditions than most pilots suspect. I reported hypertension and was required to have an entire cardiac work-up within the past 6 months. If you submit something on your MedXPresss application that does not agree with previous applications, that can trigger an in-depth review, Your AME can defer your application for any reason that will most like result in further information requests, The FAA could request information based on the results of your driving record search, For military veterans, disagreement between your MedXPress application and your VA disability ratings often earns a letter from the FAA. I wonder if your AME is really doing everything he can to be your advocate in this situation. Students and young pilots just want to fly. Some do it by mistake. But here is where the absurdity of this over zealous pursuit of perfect safety is to be seen: Yeah thought so. The FAA medical certification process has at times made me feel that I was in actual hell. Last summer I went to get my 3rd class med. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. Skye, you may be a little over the top with your attitude but not by all that much. I dont think the FAA realizes that pilots arent average human beings. Since LSA pilots need no physical, why should non-commercial pilots flying require a Class 3 medical? When reading many aviation magazines and articles it seems likely that most accidents are a result of lack of proficiency rather than due to medical issues. The flight surgeon is not my friend. maybe for some people want or need to lie, I jus cant do that..ur only foolin urself..I wud feel better knowin Im ok,,by bein checked..by doc,least bp anyway..if I dont feel good to drive then I wouldnt feel good to fly either..i know first hand,retired truck driver,been there done that,also their silent killers.pays to be checked by ur own doc..have idea where u stand medically.. get off fried foods n dont smoke is a BIG HELP..when I dont lie I feel better bout it too. Policy A. However, the general health standards to meet a drivers license requirement would seem to be a good screening source to id potential problems of health. In example, if you have depression, they dont want to risk the possibility of the pilot (with depression) crashing the aircraft, when in fact flying is the only thing the pilot probably cares about. Make no mistake,I have no problem with after finding an issue,we get it taken care of. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. And on the other hand we have people like the pilot mentioned in J. Mac McClellans article Too Many Risks in the May 2012 issue of Sport Aviation who out right lied about his substance use and abuse. Anyway if your willing I have a ton of questions for you. What are the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical? From the archives: how valuable are check rides? I can get it back, but I have to go through a fairly extensive bureaucratic morass to recover it, then jump through extra hoops over the years to keep it. You miss the point. Ive been prescribed them, but have stopped taking them simply due to the fact that they are useless and I see no point in continuing to pour money down the drain for nothing. If I have a bad cold, or whatever, I will DQ myself for flight, even if such action results in a profound economic penalty for me even though I have a valid First Class Medical. so.does everyone repeat their whole life medical history.or just the recent stuff since the last medical exam? The only truthful answer is yes, most every night. Anyway I am long through flying now. I went to my own doctor who advised me it was nothing to worry about. Military veterans should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. With the right preparation, you can navigate the process efficiently. However, I also think that the standards for commercial and airline pilots should be more stringent. An applicant who knowingly misrepresents the facts and gets caught can lose his or her pilot license forever and face a fine of up to $250,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. I am hoping that they do the right thing when it comes to my health assessment. I was then a County Police Officer for 21 years. They rely on that trust and the deterrence provided by the severe penalties at their disposal to preserve the integrity of the medical certification process. It's not those. He as a jet driver and as the sole pilot that might have been a problem during the flight he was scheduled for the next day. We report, you decipher. Are they going to question my patriotism or mental stability? I for one, not being a medical doctor, place my trust in my AME and my PCP. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. Local Oklahoma City Area: (405) 954-3261. If this is a recurrent problem, getting a class 3 medical can be difficult. This is especially true of hearing. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. I Fly America They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. The FAA is hopelessly stuck in the stone age, especially in the Aeromedical division. I told the truth (that I had a very early-stage, very treatable cancer) and had my medical yanked. Aside from that, I think that few pilots lie but, as Huck Finn said of Mark Twain, there was things which he stretched, but mainly he told the truth., See my comment about the unconsciousness question. One assault charge, not so much. . To check the validity of the certificate, email a request to Aviation Data Systems Branch, [emailprotected]. Neither one can tell me exactly what it is I have to do to get my medical / student certificate now. How Likely is it that the FAA will Catch You? I take my family on flights in my aircraft and there is no way I am going to put them at risk. The relative numbers of fatalities in all of General Aviation (GA) vs those from other causes. Risk is a price of freedom. For Uncle Sam, though, this is anything but a judgment call. The process is so closed ,opaque, and bureaucratic. good for 2 years. There are folks flying with diabetes that are on insulin. 614-497-4088 Thus, agencies such as the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and Federal Bureau of Identification (FBI), for example, will most likely still be able to see your expunged records. 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