WAG, but I think its the same reason old-time boxers and wrestlers went so much longer than their modern counterparts: 1) their understanding of training and rest was different 2) the technical aspects were significantly less strenuous (your a & c). Frustrated, the two met at the mound where Bench bluntly said, "Your fastball's not popping." So pitchers weren't up there trying to blow anyone away like they are now. And even disregarding the advances in training, hitting is much more of a science now, with statistics layered upon statistics topped with healthy doses of psychology and scouting. He also claimed he was clocked at 107.9 mph in a demonstration in 1946 at Griffith Stadium. He didnt and ended up winning 254 games. Walter Johnson did not throw 99 mph for 370 innings in 1910. There are a handful of players who will tell you that Smoky Joe Wood was the fastest throwing pitcher in baseball history. Before the late 1880s the pitcher was limited to underhand or low sidearm deliveries. Gerrit Cole's approach bringing Cy Young results, Mookie Betts vs. Bryce Harper -- and other pressing baseball debates, Real or not? Feller won 4-1, striking out five to get his record. A 90 mph pitch on a Speedgun could register at 92 on a JUGS gun and 93-94 mph on a Stalker. The next year, as a member of the Fort Wayne Daisies, she threw a no-hitter. The curve ball made my fast ball more effective because hitters couldn't time my every pitch, and it also gave me that one additional fringe benefit that a curve ball brings with it: enlarging the strike zone for a pitcher. Now they have 60 due to expanded ballparks and/or alternate site games being played away from home. His 2,453 career strikeouts are just 34th all-time, but his 8.86 SO/9 IP are ninth. The Speedgun, developed by Decatur Technologies (a long-time maker of police radar guns) measured closer to the plate than the JUGS gun. No-hitter the latest feat in James Paxton's rise, Deal ends Matt Harvey's roller-coaster ride with Mets, Sizing up potential trade fits for Manny Machado, Real or Not? Of course, you could have pitchers throw 350 innings a year now, too. The fastest pitcher ever may have been 1950s phenom and flameout Steve Dalkowski. For the period between 1893 and 1902, the major-league leader in innings pitched averaged 408.5 innings. We finished in the second division, 18 games below .500 in sixth place. How fast do you have to throw a curveball. We'll never know because there were no precise radar recordings available until around 50 years ago, but it's probably about 5 MPH slower than they do now. New York Yankees How hard did pitchers throw back in the day. Mathewson et al. Feller once mentioned that he was clocked at 104 mph at Lincoln Park in Chicago. There were freak arms throughout history. Originally Published: February 2003 on Baseball Almanac. Felizs fastball was once clocked at 103.4 mph during a game at Rangers Ballpark, a speed that is third all-time behind only Aroldis Chapman (105.1 mph) and Joel Zumaya (104.8 mph). It all depends on what pitch the pitcher is throwing, fastball are faster than curve balls, changeups. In 1989, Nolan Ryan returned to the mound with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Modern measurements / clockings are done in miles per hour in the United States and kilometers per hour in Canada & Japan. All rights reserved. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The list above IS NOT a comprehensive breakdown of every pitcher to ever surpass the 100 mph barrier, but rather a list of pitchers we have seen on ESPN Game of the Week, SportsCenter, or in person eclipsing the century mark. Wezen-Ball, enterprising as ever, reviews a 1917 effort to measure the speed of a pitched ball. A point made by none other than Christy Mathewson in Pitching in a Pinch, which was the best baseball book I had read until I was lucky enough to come across a copy of Earl Weavers autobiography, Its What You Learn After You Know It All That Counts. He finished with 4,196 in his career, good for fourth all-time and second among left-handers. In 19 seasons in the Negro Leagues, Paige recorded 1,231 strikeouts in just over 1,500 innings. Cookie Notice If a pitcher attempted to throw too fast, he'd be booed off the village green. Could we eventually see 110 mph? Pitching for the Tigers: Newhouser, who had 26 wins. Could a 108 mph fastball soon be in the future? 1 farm systems fared in the following seasons. Its hard to disagree considering that the righty piled up 2,581 strikeouts (26th all-time) during his career and led the AL in Ks seven times from 1938-1948. They all thought he was faster than Bob Feller and Walter Johnson, though none of them probably saw Johnson pitch. Feller's numbers from that season are mind-boggling from a modern perspective. Moving closer to the batter enabled catchers to better frame the pitches, field bunts, and throw out base-stealers. I would assume Ford threw in the mid-high 80s, topping out around 90. Location, location, location. I never had one. The best workhorses of that time approached 700 innings and they werent even playing 154 games in a season yet. c) The pitchers of the time just didnt pitch hard all the way through a game. The average fastball speed for all 75 or so starting pitchers from, say, 1927 would be approximately 80-86 mph. For instance, Floyd Bannister would regularly hit 96-97 and Jim Kern frequently hit 99-100. He pitched 79 innings that month and started seven of Cleveland's final 17 games. Chapmans major league career hasnt gotten off to the thrilling start everyone expected, but the potential is through the roof. Pitchers were not included in yesterday's test but "unofficially," Bob Feller of Cleveland threw three balls into the meter from a distance of 20 feet. Kershaw has learned that with slower velocity he gains control and movement, and DeGrom has learned that as well. Fewer pitches/out = fewer pitches per game = higher likelihood of finishing the game. After fielding a sacrifice bunt by pitcher Jim Bouton in spring training, Dalkowski's arm went dead and he never recovered. He held on for awhile with guile and deception but couldnt throw hard. Farewell to a Mariners legend. How were the arms of starters spared? document.write(update); Ryan threw the knuckleball from 1973 to 1986. That's 2,118 more than the 3,730 that MLB leader David Price threw in 2014. Plus, it's hard to know, 70 years later, how precise the Lumiline Chronograph was. Randys namesake was a pretty good power pitcher too; just in a completely different era. The record has since been broken several times. Once again, it made it a lot less dangerous to make a bad pitch. update=copyright.getFullYear(); Since machine testing was rare and uncommon we are left with a scientific void about historical flamethrowers. I dont imagine it was easy pitching back then, but its got to be more grueling today. Even though both were clocked rather crudely, their measurements would extrapolate to over 100 mph on a modern radar gun. Bob slept well that night. Williams swore he never saw the ball and claimed that Dalkowski probably was the fastest pitcher who ever lived. Throwing the ball 90+ MPH is not a rare event at the upper levels of the game. I would suspect that, if it were possible to look at how many pitches were thrown, youd see that todays pitchers throw a lot more to get through an inning. Modern pitchers however exert themselves on every pitch. Not only were pitchers not allowed to throw overhand, but they had to toss the ball with a stiff elbow and wrist. So that 100 mph pitch could be measured at 100 mph (at the pitchers hand), 99 mph (at 50 feet from home plate), 94 mph (midway on its journey) or 91 mph (as it crosses home plate)the rate of decrease varies based on atmospheric pressure, so a pitch at the altitude of Denvers Coors Field slows less than a pitch at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Fla. Bob Feller had his fastball tested by the army at 98.6 mph. Source: Richmond (VA) Times Dispatch, June 7, 1939. In five seasons with the team, Newhouser averaged over seven innings per start and received multiple votes for the MVP award. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. Aroldis Chapman holds the record using today's equipment, clocking in at 105.1 mph. Its believed he could throw upwards of 100 mph. Gibson was never much of a strikeout artist. The device measures the ball's speed between the two points and flashes it on a scale facing the pitcher. Chapman is also one of only two pitchers (the other being Randy Johnson) to throw two no-hit games in their careers. In 1963 for Elmira he finally started throwing strikes. pitchers) finished what they started. During spring training in 1964, Dalkowski was with the Major League club. Today, in the late 1990s pitchers can throw over 100 miles per hour (160 km/h or 45 m/s). Smoky Joe Wood often said, "I threw so hard, I thought my arm would fly right off my body." [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, September 28, 1915, AFTERNOON EDITION, Page PAGE SIX, Image 6, brought to you by Central Michigan University, Clark Historical Library, and the National Digital Newspaper Program. One other thing to remember. There have been three periods in baseball history when workloads for starting pitchers declined noticeably: 1) In the 1890s when the pitchers were pushed back to 60 feet, 6 inches; 2) In the early 1920s when the lively ball came out; and 3) In the 1990s when pitch counts became all the rage. are especially hard on the arm. They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel! **For the best user experience, we recommend disabling the Reddit redesign. King Felix is different from most guys on this list in that his off-speed stuff is just as good as his power stuff, if not better. I mean i wasn't there so I'm skeptical. Ok, pre war pitchers were not throwing hard, is it safe to say that because pitchers were not throwing hard then, Ruth took advantage of it? Wood is now blowing away hitters as a full-time reliever. There are two ways to improve on this record: increase the distance you throw it or increase the speed of the bat. He once threw a pitch so hard that the catcher missed the ball and it shattered an umpire's mask. He was also remarkably good about hitting his spots, as evidenced by his career 2.96 SO/BB ratio. The Baby Braves might be ready ahead of schedule, Real or Not? He pitched 371.1 innings. Its not often you find a starter who can throw up to 102 mph in any inning in any count on any day. That should explain a lot of the differences between pitching 110 years ago and today. In his first full season as a closer the righty struck out 90 batters in 64.2 innings, good enough for his first and only All-Star selection. They wanted to control, be durable, and pitch for a long time. Somebody got the idea to test Feller's velocity. Both Chapman and Hicks are relievers. Now, youre expected to throw your best the entire game. Then there is no pitcher among the top 100 until 1964. Just inside is a set of photo-electric tubes, and five feet back is another set. While in the minor leagues with Detroit, Ty Cobb reportedly told Hubbell to stop throwing the pitch. David Roark is a passionate and knowledgeable individual when it comes to sports. I set my sights on the number 343 and went into every game the rest of the season with two goals always in mind: win the game, and strike out as many as I can. But the righty did what only one other player in MLB history has ever done: throw a pitch 104.8 mph. Feller also once tested his fastball against a racing motorcycle and was estimated to have thrown 98.6 mph that time as well (or 104 mph by some modern estimates). **, Press J to jump to the feed. Baseball owed much of its origin to cricket, and one of the game's first codified sets of rules -- the Knickerbocker rules, drafted in 1845 for New York's Knickerbocker baseball club -- speak to those roots: "The ball must be pitched, not thrown, for the bat." "Pitched", in the . Baseball Almanac is pleased to provide you with a velocity calculator which you can use to convert these various formats and compare pitchers - both modern and historical. Mostly, pitchers tended to save themselves for key situations. So how was pitching different back then? He threw 283 pitches in a complete game against Aberdeen and once threw 120 pitches in only two innings. Hes already among the all-time leaders with 215 saves and has nearly 500 strikeouts in just seven short seasons. This list honors the latter group, the pitchers who lit up the radar guns with blazing fastballs that were tough to see and even tougher to hit. Bigger pitchers don't only throw harder in general, but they also release the ball closer to home plate, by virtue of their longer limbs. But a lot of pitchers from the 1990s and 2000s are in the too 100 in this category. One such pitcher was Hal Newhouser of the Louisville Colonels. His 10.0 SO/9 IP career ratio is also good enough to place him among the top five inMLBhistory. Others who claimed he was the fastest ever were Paul Richards, Harry Brecheen and Earl Weaver. The official reading was in 2006, and its doubtful that Zumaya can come anywhere close to that figure now, but for a time, you could call Zumaya the hardest thrower ever. Overall, Ryan went 1-2 with a 5.40 ERA in three games back from surgery on his right shoulder. I thought I might give Bob Feller something to worry about. It measured velocity closer to the pitchers release point than the JUGS gun, so the JUGS flipped to being the slow gun. Real or Not? Joe Wood 15. But just because the third strike often eluded Gibson, doesnt mean that the Hall of Famer didnt throw hard. The rookie returned to his position behind the plate and called for a curve, only to be shaken off again. Theres a reason the kid had two Cy Young awards by the time he was 25. Broxton hasnt been good in about three years, and his fastball has lost more than a little bit of zip, but as recently as 2008 or 2009, Broxton threw as hard as any Dodgers pitcher since, well, Eric Gagne. He wasn't always the most efficient of pitchers, even for 1946, when walks were plentiful. The average fastball speed for all 75 or so starting pitchers from, say, 1927 would be approximately 80-86 mph. Pre-WW2, there were probably only a handful of guys who could crack 90. Mookie Betts is playing like an MVP again, Real or Not? Maloney, also blunt, replied, "%*$@ you." Could Mike Trout outproduce a tanking team's entire lineup? What was the fastest pitch ever thrown during a baseball game? The current world record holder is Randy Johnson with 104.0 mph. The 65 lefty was a true strikeout artist during his heyday, leading his league in Ks five times and twice topping 300. The AL East is setting up as a race for the ages, Albert Pujols' push for 3,000 powered by dominant decade, 'Ich-i-ro! I woudl suggest that it is in fact simply that they let the pitchers pitch so much back then. When you have a good curve ball, it makes your strike zone larger because the hitters swing at pitches that are outside. According to University of Illinois physicist Dr. Alan Nathan, a pitch that leaves a pitcher's hand at 100. Cleveland men who developed the speed meter said the only comparable scientific marks were made in 1917. I am scertain that most pitchers probably had shortened carrers because of the overuse, but the exceptions stick out in historythe Cy Younsg, Gorver Cleveland Alexanders and Walter Johnsons. Her best was 40 feet per second. In 995 minor league innings, he walked 1,354 batters and struck out 1,396. The machine, called the "Lumiline Chronograph," used photoelectric cells to clock the object that passed through the device's opening. Greg madux would only pump 90+ in later innings to throw hitters off. Thats why many pre-1893 pitching records are not recognized as official records. Despite over 3,000 career punchouts Gibson finished his career averaging just 7.3 SO/9 and only led the league in strikeouts once. Its easy to forget just how good Doc was with the Mets after his career pretty much fell apart in the late 1990s. He probably had the second-best fastball of that era. In 1940, the Hall of Fame right-hander threw the only Opening Day no-hitter in MLB history. The Royals' Josh. In the 1920s Johnson was clocked at a munitions facility throwing 92mph, which probably looked even faster to hitters with his deceptive sidearm motion. Dalkowski was not physically imposing, standing only 5'8" and wearing thick glasses. He struck out 276 batters in 218 innings as arookiein 1984 and then came back the next season to win the Cy Young award by striking out 268 batters in 276.2 innings. In 1987, he started throwing the curveball more often than not. He never finished outside of the top nine in strikeouts every year between 1969 and 1984. Chapman is the owner of the fastest ever recorded pitch at an incredible 105.1 mph. No longer could pitchers rely on wicked movement. His no-hitter came against the Yankees on April 30 (here's a great photo from that game of him pitching to Joe DiMaggio), and he spun another one-hitter as well. Woods career didnt turn out exactly as planned, as repeated arm injuries robbed him off his explosiveness, but the right-hander is still the active leader with 10.3 SO/9 IP, a mark that is second only to Randy Johnson among starters. His less-touted teammate, pitcher Johnny Humphreys, recorded 127 feet. On August 13, in a night game at home against the Tigers, I recorded my 262nd strikeout, breaking my career high of 261 in 1940. His greatest accomplishment is probably striking out 21 batters in a minor league game and walking 21 batters in another. I almost missed Matt Kilroy 513Ks in 1886!. Less games meant more time to recuperate between starts. His 10.0 SO/9 IP during his career would be fourth all-time if the righty threw more innings. Diamondbacks primed to bury Dodgers, Losing Corey Seager leaves Dodgers' season on the brink. His 105.1 mph fastball breached the 105 mph mark for the first time. In 1998, Lima matched this speed while playing for the Dodgers. Red Sox bullpen's tightrope act will wear thin, Real or not? And no one threw sliders like they do today. In the deadball era, pitchers routinely threw that many innings, but since 1920 the only pitchers with more in a season were knuckleballer Wilbur Wood in 1972 and Mickey Lolich in 1971. He started again on July 31 against the Red Sox. I was never afraid to throw my curve when I was behind in the count, 2 and 0 or 3 and 1, or even late in a pressure situation. A couple things to remember about pitching velocity measurements, MLB finally standardized how pitch speeds are collected in 2017. ** Actual picture of speed taken from the field at bottom of the chart.^ Due to the large number of MLB.com Gameday additions this symbol means it was verified there. Early comments about fastball pitchers can be found in many old newspapers and offer some interesting insight into who was considered fastest during this early era: "He (Lefty Grove) was the fastest pitcher who ever lived." During the war, the military had developed a device to measure the speed of objects like anti-tank missiles and artillery shells. Guys that make it back that had crazy control. He didn't even have the . No, pitchers didn't throw 150 miles an hour. Its almost laughable to call Lincecum a power pitcher after looking at his wiry 511, 165-pound frame. What is the world record speed for throwing a baseball? Up until that year the pitcher's position was known as the pitcher's box. If he harnesses all his pitches and learns to throw strikes consistently, theres no reason he cant one day pass the next guy on this list in career strikeouts. McDowell, otherwise known as Sudden Sam, is another one of the pitchers youve probably never heard of unless you grew up as a Cleveland Indians fan during the 1960s and 1970s. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. How fast can a baseball pitcher throw? Clemens is known for a lot of things, and being a power pitcher is certainly one of them. The moment a baseball leaves a pitcher's hand, it starts to slow down because of drag. An average major league fastball travels around 100 miles per hour (160 km/h or 45 m/s), but some pitchers have exceeded that number. Pitchers were required to throw underhand until 1883. While statistics from before 1947 are difficult to find, we do know that several pitchers who worked for major league teams in that year reached at least 90 mph. What is the fastest a human has thrown a baseball? Who was president when the Orioles threw out the first pitch? Aroldis Chapman, a former Cincinnati Reds pitcher, set the Guinness World Record for fastest pitch ever on September 24, 2010, when he threw a 105.1-mph fastball against the San Diego Padres. The Elias Sports Bureau, Stats Inc and The Sporting News are all highly respected resources who publish some form of record book every season, yet none of them recognize any pitcher as the fastest ever. Johnson was capable of throwing 99, but how often did he need to throw that hard? Who could throw the fastest fastball? After having it their way for the first two decades of the 20th Century, pitchers entered a dark age in which they were no longer allowed to use a ball that was dead, scuffed and (with few exceptions) wet. Dmitriy Ioselevich is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report. That's interesting. -- and his pitching motion was practically indistinguishable from the pitching motions we see today. As long as hitters kept missing it, I was going to keep throwing it. Pitchers back then (deadball era) were expected to throw complete games and had to pace themselves. The best workhorses of that time approached 700 innings - and they weren't even playing 154 games in a season yet. They are also some of the most widely debated by historians, researchers & experts alike. Today it will test the salary wings of Bob Feller, and any other members of the Cleveland and Boston American loop clubs who are willing. (Note Radbourns 441 Ks in 1884). Source: The Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball, 1997. Sponsors recalled that back in 1917, in Bridgeport (Conn.) arms laboratory, Walter Johnson recorded 134 feet per second, Christy Mathewson 127 and "Smoky Joe" Wood 124. For one thing, if Feller threw that hard, or something close to it, I think that would be reflected more in the numbers. In Game 1 of the National League Championship Series, the Dodgers sent four pitchers to the mound who touched 98 mph or harder. This is the main reason. So who is the fastest pitcher in baseball? His 4,875 strikeouts rank second all time, and his 10.6 SO/9 IP is first all time by a healthy margin. I would guess that he saved his best fastball and used it maybe a dozen times a game. On Sept. 24, 2010, Aroldis Chapman threw the fastest recorded pitch in major league history. As for other hard numbers for those days: two hours and 15 minutes was considered an ordinary game back then. So even though it was recorded at 100 yards, it was actually 0.2 mph faster than what is considered to be legal ball speed. - Ford Frick, "Smokey Joe (Williams) could throw harder than all of them." I think some of these things are a bit overblown. Perhaps I'm wrong on this, but it's just a theory of mine. Pitching is a very important technique in the game of baseball. Other sources reported that the measuring device was a tube and that he took a long time to finally throw one into the tube. As long as hitters kept missing it, I was going to keep throwing it. "The key here is that he did not pitch in pro baseball. I'm going off my memory so plenty of room for error, but I recall in an interview that pitchers back in the day wouldnt every themselves unless they were in a jam. However i will not outright disagree. Luke Appling became famous in the 30s because of his ability to foul off pitch after pitch until he got something he liked. Now, his fastball is usually in the high 80's. . Major League Baseball does not recognize radar speeds as an official statistic. They probably couldve done a lot harder throwing if they wanted to. All Rights Reserved by Baseball Almanac, Inc.Hosted by Hosting 4 Less. Mark McGwire of the St. Louis Cardinals and Jose Lima of the Los Angeles Dodgers both reached this mark twice. The top fastallers might have topped out at 85 mph or so, anyway. how fast did pitchers throw in the 1920s Did Walter Johnson really throw 98-99 mph or did he throw 91-92 which was harder than everyone throwing in his day. b) Travel pervaded the season more in those days pitchers got a lot of rest while sitting around on trains. Hes led the NL in strikeouts in each of the past three seasons and is a threat to do it again this year. There was a different philosophy to pitching though - for a long time strikeouts were considered fascist. Three pitch speeds: slow, slower, and reverse." For scouts, the Speedgun was known as the slow gun while the JUGS gun registered faster readings and was the fast gun.. 14. The first radar guns that began appearing at ballparks in the late 1970s and early 1980s measured pitches much closer to the plate. Its not a fluke either. We asked the experts. Freddy Peralta thrills family with dazzling debut, Real or Not? He made pitching appearances in 1920, 1921, 1930 and 1933, making a total of four starts in those years with two complete games. Many hitters claim that Rapid Robert is the fastest pitcher who ever lived. Three digits! He was clocked as high as 103 mph before extreme wildness ended his career prematurely. Weintraub writes: However, since the machine measured the speed of the ball as it passed through its sensors, unlike modern radar guns that clock the ball as it leaves the pitcher's hand, it actually flew much harder. For one thing, if Feller threw that hard, or something close to it, I think that would be reflected more in the numbers. Thus making this document worthy enough for display in our museum. Nolan Ryan earned his nickname "The Ryan Express.". God I loved it. Why do infielders throw the ball so fast? Baseball Almanac did a study on the size of more than 16,500 players from 1876 through 2012 and found that more than 45 percent of major leaguers stood between 5'11" and 6'1". #TBT: How fast was Bob Feller's fastball? Oh, that's not what we were talking about? Hes a lock to reach 3,000 if he stays healthy, and at 28 years old, he may just be getting better. The most widely quoted response is Nolan Ryan, whose fastball was "officially" clocked by the Guinness Book of World Records at 100.9 miles per hour in a game played on August 20, 1974, versus the Detroit Tigers. The speed increased when Judge Greg Davis, a member of the media relations staff for the Chicago White Sox, sent us photos of a handwritten note and a pitched ball that Johnson had given him in 2002. The most incredible part of Wagners story? A varied assortment of men followed. Fascinating accounts, stories, and even myths about how fast - or not so fast - a pitch has gone are common in the annals of the game. All times are GMT-8. He topped 100 Ks in his first full season as the Los Angeles closer and regularly reached triple-digits. Nolan Ryan holds record for fastest pitch. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Walter Johnsonthrew the ball 134 feet a second, Christy Mathewson127 and "Smoky Joe" Wood124. The best the Indians could do was a tie at 119 feet by Ben Chapman, Julius Solters and Jim Shilling. They didnt replace the game balls as often consequently by the end of a game the ball was a blackened, tobacco-sopping, lopsided, scuffed, bag of mush. Feliz's fastball was once clocked at 103.4 mph during a game at Rangers Ballpark, a speed that is third all-time behind only Aroldis Chapman (105.1 mph) and Joel Zumaya (104.8 mph). was still 85mph. During his eight-year retirement, Ryan worked as a baseball analyst for NBC Sports and as a consultant for the Texas Rangers. 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