Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. I thought it was hilarious when detectives had Chris in for questioning and they briefly questioned him about Nichol Kessinger. I think he snapped. A Ryan Murphy miniseries on this needs to happen. During a trip out west, they fell in love with the scenery and overall vibe of Frederick,. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. I will be curious to know if he was on the spectrum in some way. I don't get it. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". But OH MY GOD! Who extends credit to a bankrupt couple living in a gigantic home? The real victims of this horrendous crimes are the wee girls, may their souls rest in peace. On social media, the couple seemed like they had a perfect marriage. To hide her, not to inter her. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. FFS, asthma is not so elusive and rare that several doctors over two years failed to recognize it. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. Theres a story there. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. Those kids had a terrible life. I wrote that R420 post on the last thread, out of ballistic anger at how this confidence woman (conwoman) is getting canonized on other forums. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. Because intferile people have three pregnancies in a five-year span. Yes . How wrong we all were. Makes me want to slap those agents silly. Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Discovery Documents Ex husband Leonard . He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. Their last hours were terrifying & uncomfortable & their deaths were neither quick or painless. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. murdered both kids, killing the one though she fought him, I think it's safe to say he wasn't interested in being a parent AT ALL. Then lived there as long as she could before filing bankruptcy. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Would you know my name if I saw you in Heaven? Why did he hate those little girls so much? Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. Selling prescription meds? A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. And isnt it a fucker that the Topix forums went away? @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? The Rzucek's Say They Loved Chris At First. what happens to all their debt now? Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' That was also around the time she was diagnosed with lupus. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. He learned of this case from social media and news. Geni requires JavaScript! You have some real writing talent. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! More than a half year before their affair began. I'm a Frau who loves THRIVE! No doubt he snapped. She built it. Shanann to Shan'ann. There were rumors that they were defrauding employees using payroll/benefit scam. They were a family. It is known that she did not die until days later. A financial, medical, and emotional con! No wonder Chriss parents didnt like her. Her parents called her SHANan. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. jim martin death couples massage class san diego beaver falls football shanann watts first marriage. She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. A concerned friend contacted law enforcement after learning of the murders of Shanann Watts and her two young daughter, relaying an unsettling anecdote Shanann had shared with her just weeks before she was killed. And a few people I know in real life. Its very difficult to call out liars unless theres a criminal act like fraud. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. R218: Consider yourself lucky. So she's the Laci Peterson of this generation? He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. You're projecting your own values onto him. Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. [quote]Of course we can say nice things about her, too. R181: The friend is Chris Watts ex-girlfriend. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. Happy deathaversary, Shanannanananananana!! May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Shanann wanted one more child praying for a baby boy. Image from Facebook. Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Maybe they had a parent cosign for them, or something. Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts click ACCEPT. It was Bumfuck, NC, but still worth $400k. And Chris shouldve bolted before, or right after, that ridiculous 2015 BK, where it was largely due to his wifes spending and the fact that she quit her real job. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. Does anyone know if hes made any statements or has spilled any tea? The couple had reportedly had marital stress, and Shanann and the daughters had recently spent six weeks in North Carolina with her family, arriving back in Colorado on August 7. The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. She shared every fucking thing on social media. Lupus usually involves disease and loss of major organs. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. I followed the guy who was having an affair with Chris for over a year after he came out and he never changed his stories and would go on many details. In 2018, husband and father Chris Wattswas arrested for murdering his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two young daughters, Bella and Celeste, in Colorado (via Oxygen). No, R108. I wish I had screenshot some of those comments. Too bad there wasn't a trial so we can hear it all, because it was too actual to be ignored. What's kind of interesting is that on the body cam video Chris was saying he was locked out of the bank account (didn't have the password) because he "got into trouble a long time ago" (he was implying financially). LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. And no one to root for except those poor kids. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. After several days of publicly protesting that he had not seen his wife or daughters after leaving for work on Monday, Watts broke down and confessed to the murders on Wednesday, police said. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. "When Shanann Watts blew out the candles on her birthday cake on January 10, 2018, with her two young daughters by her side, she had no idea it would be her last birthday or that all three of them would be dead in the coming year. I thanked LEONARD for his time. It is so fucking disturbing. But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. I looked on Google Maps, and boy were they right!! John Forbes officiating. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background." . True R63. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. R128 Well, his plans were foiled when her flight was delayed hours, and the friend called 911 early the next day. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. Bella especially went through absolute hell. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. And I still think that he lied about some things and left details out of this confession. [quote] in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. The digital quality of the photo makes it look dark. Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. They filed for chapter 7 BK in 2015 too, same year as the Watts. She was 25. Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts was a con. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. She expected to quietly . From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). If you had to list her good points, she had a social life. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? Can we get a link to something about her. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. Do not let your spouse engage in financial infidelity and ruin you! She wanted a Lexus. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. Chris Watts. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Interview concluded at 1448 hour. I have no use for him, but if the tables were turned, and the husband was filming, itd be seen as abusive. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . There's no such suggestion of that scenario in the discovery. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. This gal always lived on the financial edge. That's idiotic R70. Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. A new documentary on the Watts family murders shines a spotlight on the deteriorating relationship between Colorado family annihilator Chris Watts and his wife, Shanann. I also want to see her car model pictures too. However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. The two met in 2010 when Chriss Lee Watts was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. Its clear the NC house layout was inspiration to the CO home that was customized. I'll be back. He admitted to that. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. And charged all the furnishings on credit. Here is a entertaining video of hausfraus selling Luluroe via MLM. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. Wife of Christopher Lee (Chris) Watts and Private He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? Walk away, wimp. Thank you all for this thread. So I put her parents in the same category as all of the other people and businesses she has conned. Its endlessly fascinating. ". Meanwhile, hes doing the financial math about a divorce. Why was their marriage not going well? And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. Dont get me started on this grifty broad. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. Take a look at I thought, "huh. It made her feel special. Anyone have a guess as to why Chris was so brutal with his daughters? The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). I knowMARY! Gone is HottieWattie and the FattieWattie (pronounce it like Whattie and it rhymes) is back in his rightful place, the guy went crazy being hot, fugly is where he belongs. Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. The. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. NK was a normal, healthy, financial-responsible woman who loved Colorado sightseeing, hiking, camping, probably skiing, exploring natural resources, and all things normal people do in Colorado. Which is what no one can explain. I don't get it. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. Spot on r147. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. The moral of this story? He was taken into custody late Wednesday, and on Thursday police discovered the bodies of Shanann, Celeste and Bella at an oil drilling field where Watts worked as an operator for Anadarko. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. I really didnt. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. This YouTube channel has tons of Shan'ann's Facebook Live videos where she's blathering about those sketchy Thrive products. 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