It was super fun and really quick. Required fields are marked *. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. The Butcher Baker Minisode. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. Required fields are marked *. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Thats not all he said, of course. Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. CINDY: Uh huh. There. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? FLOTHE: You drove past the house? Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. (pause) Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? Glenn Flothe, AST. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. Buck teeth. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or She would, of course, run like hell for her life, but the killer would track her down. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. And it may not even be in there. CINDY: Yes, directly. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. Darla was an exceptionally intelligent woman with a masters degree in education who made her living by tutoring school children; she was also a devout Christian who believed in God and the sanctity of marriage with all of her heart and soul. His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. CINDY: All right. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. CINDY: Yep. Cause that was the smallest he had. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. Glenn Flothe. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) CINDY: The garage was opened. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? FLOTHE: How did he get in? Hes amazing. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. The FBI had been spot on about everything. How fitting! Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. CINDY: Yep. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. CINDY: Tons CINDY: Um hmm. So he shows up Sunday night, then. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. CINDY: Uh huh. It was smooth. He was right to worry, state officials later said. And I said, Fine, no problem.. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. Just him by himself. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Ah. There were horns. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. CINDY: About ten minutes. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? Together they entertained colleagues at their home. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. FLOTHE: If you can move your hand away from your face a little bit I want to make sure we get it on the tape recorder, OK? With a cut in the back. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. CINDY: Nope. This is a very intense film. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? "Good riddance to him.". FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. CINDY: Uh huh. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. Every time it was in my face. (inaudible) For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). To the left is the basement. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. So, that was nice. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. She had been engaging in sex work. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. CINDY: On. Handle was brown. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. I operated behind a work persona. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. CINDY: Uh huh. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. CINDY: Well, I didnt. It just felt (inaudible) and he pulled the gun out and that time he had handcuffs on my hands and I couldnt get the door open. CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . CINDY: Um I think it was around six. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. What made you want to do it? Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. When will it be released? FLOTHE: How about the glasses? "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. People either loved it or they hated it. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. You know, like mine is. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. All rights reserved. Did you know the street name? FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. CINDY: Uh huh. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. FLOTHE: Um hmm. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Like a station wagon. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. "As far as Hansen is concerned, this world is better without him." Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. CINDY: I dont think so. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. We all have the same needs. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. CINDY: Up to the house. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: He just drove by. And he had called me and I slept through it. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. CINDY: Yeah. I personally loved it. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Glenn Flothe, AST. Alaska's Missing Planes and People. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Learn how your comment data is processed. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Were all connected. Interesting stuff. Like a little Datsun station wagon. Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. We all have the same needs. CINDY: OK. It had a long barrel. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. CINDY: He approached me. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? It was just shocking and disturbing. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. or debate this issue live on our message boards. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? CINDY (cont. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). CINDY: No. CINDY: No. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? FLOTHE: Horns? This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. Im not involved though. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. He remains active in the markets. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. 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